{"id":9597,"date":"2017-11-23T13:59:44","date_gmt":"2017-11-23T13:59:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.wma.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Pa\u0308lve-WMA-EoL-Presentation-Vatican-Nov2017.pdf"},"modified":"2017-11-23T13:59:44","modified_gmt":"2017-11-23T13:59:44","slug":"pa%cc%88lve-wma-eol-presentation-vatican-nov2017-2","status":"inherit","type":"attachment","link":"https:\/\/www.wma.net\/fr\/pa%cc%88lve-wma-eol-presentation-vatican-nov2017-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Pa\u0308lve-WMA EoL Presentation Vatican-Nov2017"},"author":5,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":[],"acf":[],"description":{"rendered":"<p class=\"attachment\"><a href='https:\/\/www.wma.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Pa\u0308lve-WMA-EoL-Presentation-Vatican-Nov2017.pdf'><img width=\"212\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wma.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Pa\u0308lve-WMA-EoL-Presentation-Vatican-Nov2017-pdf-212x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>11\/23\/17<br \/>\n1<br \/>\nDealing with public and published opinions<br \/>\nFinnish experience of public debate 2017<br \/>\nHeikki P\u00e4lve<br \/>\nChair of the WMA Medical Ethics<br \/>\nCommittee 2014 &#8211; 2017<br \/>\nFinnish Medical Association<br \/>\nBackground<br \/>\n\u2022 Legistlative proposal intiatiated by lay people on euthansia was<br \/>\nhanded to the parliament 9.11.2016<br \/>\n\u2022 Huge public attention due to very well respected and known people<br \/>\nacting behind the proposal \u2013 fourth in order<br \/>\n\u2022 Medical association was immediately one partner in the debate.<br \/>\n\u2022 It was about the only partner raising opposite views,<br \/>\nLesson 1:<br \/>\n\u2022 Every nation must deal with the issue its own way<br \/>\n\u2022 Finland is homogenic, small, open, democratic, secular, we have<br \/>\nconfidence to the \u2019system\u2019\u2026.<br \/>\nLesson 2:<br \/>\nSupport of the euthanasia among the public (in<br \/>\nFinland) is \u2019natural\u2019 and big<br \/>\n\u2022 people 73%<br \/>\n\u2022 Physicians (2013) 46%<br \/>\n\u2022 nurses 42%<br \/>\n\u2022 Ready to do it 23%<br \/>\n\u2022 Specialists in end-of-life care 17% (!)<br \/>\nLesson 3:<br \/>\nQuestions raised are implying that opposing<br \/>\neuthanasia is inhuman<br \/>\n\u2022 Why do the physicians allow suffering?<br \/>\n\u2022 Suffering is understood as physical (pain) suffering and the other<br \/>\nnatural forms of suffering prior to death are not understood:<br \/>\n\u2022 Social, psychological, existential<br \/>\n\u2022 Explaing that the suffering (pain) is treatable does not have any<br \/>\neffect<br \/>\nLesson 4:<br \/>\nAutonomy of the patient is put forefont<br \/>\n\u2022 Why is a suffering person not entitled to his\/her own opinion on the<br \/>\ntreatment?<br \/>\n\u2022 It is MY life and MY desicion!<br \/>\n\u2022 Is the physician not willing to treat the patient according to his\/her<br \/>\nwill?<br \/>\n11\/23\/17<br \/>\n2<br \/>\nLesson 5:<br \/>\nMedia is on the side of the ill individual<br \/>\n\u2022 \u2026. illustrating that the opposing profession is against the sick<br \/>\nperson which damages the the trust to the profession and<br \/>\nquestions the trust to our ethics<br \/>\n\u2022 Social media is of huge importance and mainly pro-euthanasia<br \/>\nLesson 6:<br \/>\nClarify terminology<br \/>\n\u2022 \u2019euthasia\u2019 as a term is extremely poorly understood<br \/>\n\u2022 Therefore many people support it on wrong basis or expects<br \/>\nsolutions to problems it will not solve<br \/>\nIs euthanasia the seeked solution?<br \/>\n\u2013\u2009<br \/>\nTS\t7.2.2017<br \/>\nUpon\tarriving to\tterminal care institution they wanted \u2019euthanasia\u2019\tand<br \/>\nafter receiving proper palliative care the husband confirmed that it\twas<br \/>\nexcactly what they ment with it<br \/>\nIs euthanasia the solution?<br \/>\nIlta-Sanomat<br \/>\n18.12.2016<br \/>\nOn\tthe tabloids was given the image\tthat<br \/>\n3\tyrs old ICH\tboy could benefit of<br \/>\neuthanasia legistlation<br \/>\nDo we understand the terminology?<br \/>\nSK\t47\/2016<br \/>\nMy\tpersonal experience makes<br \/>\nme\tan\texpert;<br \/>\nHis son died suffering of<br \/>\nimmense pain<br \/>\nSuffering =\tpain<br \/>\nexl.\tSocial,\tmental and<br \/>\nexistential suffering<br \/>\nLesson 6:<br \/>\nTry to clarify the intentions of any debate<br \/>\n\u2022 Clarify\/inform concerning the terminology<br \/>\n\u2022 Clarify the diffferent forms of suffering and the possibillities to<br \/>\nmeasure them<br \/>\n\u2022 Physcical\/existential\/psycological\/social<br \/>\n\u2022 Explain the difference between the possibiities to treat pain and the<br \/>\ncurrent situation in palliative care<br \/>\n11\/23\/17<br \/>\n3<br \/>\nLesson 7:<br \/>\n\u2022 Give the floor to the specialists of palliative care<br \/>\n\u2022 Endorse their visibility in the debate<br \/>\n\u2022 Inform about palliative sedation as being a treatment \u2013 not a form of<br \/>\neuthanasia<br \/>\n\u2022 Only after that come the medical ethical issues important in the<br \/>\npublic debate<br \/>\nShould we have law on euthasia?<br \/>\n15<br \/>\n71<br \/>\n17<br \/>\n59<br \/>\n14<br \/>\n64<br \/>\n26<br \/>\n15<br \/>\n19<br \/>\n0% 20% 40% 60% 80% 100%<br \/>\nL\u00e4\u00e4k\u00e4riavusteisen\titsemurhan\tsalliva\tlaki<br \/>\nSaattohoitolaki<br \/>\nEutanasian\tsalliva\tlaki<br \/>\nKyll\u00e4 Ei\t En\tosaa\tsanoa<br \/>\nMedical ethics standpoint<br \/>\n\u2022 Euthanasia fundamentally changes and to some degree also<br \/>\ndamages the trust to the health care system<br \/>\n\u2022 Unacceptable and unvisible pressure on vulnerable patient groups<br \/>\n\u2022 \u00e8 new suffering<br \/>\n\u2022 Physicians are supposed to decide on the diagnosis and treatment<br \/>\n\u2013 not on active termination of life (let the life end \u2013 do not end it)<br \/>\n\u2022 Slippery slope is a fact \u2013 and very undesirabe<br \/>\n\u2022 Medical ethics is international<br \/>\n16<br \/>\nthank you<\/p>\n"},"caption":{"rendered":"<p>11\/23\/17 1 Dealing with public and published opinions Finnish experience of public debate 2017 Heikki P\u00e4lve Chair of the WMA Medical Ethics Committee 2014 &#8211; 2017 Finnish Medical Association Background \u2022 Legistlative proposal intiatiated by lay people on euthansia was handed to the parliament 9.11.2016 \u2022 Huge public attention due to very well respected and 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